amoonalls:

Patterns in 12th House Stellium People

TW: Abuse

Connected to previous post about 12th house placements and as requested, I have noticed there are some similar patterns for these natives

  • 12th house stellium esp fixed dom ones tend to endure the bad things early in their life. They may experience some fucked up things that are done by people around them, usually close people like family members or friends but most of the times, they weren’t realize the effect that will take toll on them
  • Which is why a lot of times when they grow up esp during young adult, all those accumulations of abuse, wrongdoings, and else erupted and thus make them have major breakdown. This is worsening if they have Mars or Pluto in 12th house. Usually they become a very different people
  • People indeed oftentimes have wrong ideas of them esp fixed dom ones cuz on the outside they seem like they have things together. It’s also due to fact that esp Taurus-Scorpio axis, they have such shame of letting people know how mess their actual life condition is. Thus leading people to think that the thing that they’re experiencing is not that serious
  • It’s also due to fact that a lot of times, the degree of severity of problem is not seen by the actual problem but how the carrier of problem express their worry or sense of give up. Hence why when these natives seemingly do not express much worry, other people think the problem is something they still can handle. Which they can’t but having faced such dismissal make them doubtful to try again
  • Will tell you their actual problems though after you share your own problems first in portion that is lesser than you. The secrecy is a must for them
  • The interest of spiritual tool as I have mentioned before is pivotal for their life direction and how they get to know themselves.
  • A lot of times they are born from quite hippie family. Their parent(s) may be in occupation like painter, singer, etc. Fit with Neptunian theme of romantic job. From there too, they may have tapped into spirituality quite earlier as their parent(s) already introduce that to them
  • But with Sun in 12th house esp, their father may be unrealiable figure. The father may have done poor job at securing the bag for family which lead to him either quit the job right away which make the wife has to struggle to save family’s financial situation or he’s a very moody person in terms of seeking for income
  • But usually the natives will love the father in some type of way, eventhough he’s halfassing them throughout time. They may even prefer him than their mom, eventho the mom is materially more responsible to them. There’s this sense of romanticism and idealism of father’s personality which fit with the ideal father that children wanna have. No kids would say “my dad works in corporate job he’s great”. They will always say “my dad is so awesome look at what he draw yesterday”
  • Romance rarely exist but even it does, usually it’s only done with selected people. One thing 12th house stellium have in common is choosing partner from emotional base. Their crush or partner is rarely the flashy one. Usually their subject of adoration is known by their kindness and emotions. May really well attract quite lowkey people
  • Really need someone else or at least watch other people to make them balance that 6th house energy though. Too many times their quality of mundane life decreasing as they grow into more isolation. Their early life may be great but once major problem hits, it just go opposite
  • Very religious people or at least deep in spirituality as they try to learn other people’s beliefs that they think might be able to help them navigate life
  • The type of calm friend at first but turns out having so many emotional burdens
  • Their marriage will work really well if they choose partner who is as lowkey as them and deeply caring and together they build solid life with also richness of emotional and spiritual healing
  • The point is highlighted in here cuz compared to 8th house, 8th house natives tend to attract flashy partner or romantic interest. Those who are in spot of being seen and adored by many people
  • These natives may not trying to climb to social ladder unless they have other placements that support them to, but living peacefully like that even if their life is quite static actually bring them so much serene. It’s Capricorn/8th house/Aries natives that always try so much to climb the social ladder
  • Some of them are really handy people when you want a faithful friend that will keep your secrets even after you no longer befriend with them. They also ironically rarely say protest toward you eventho you are halfassing them along the way. They just say that in indirect tone or later time when it’s no longer endurable

abysskiss asked:

hi ! i would love to hear ur thoughts on 12th house as a natal placement ! :) thank u

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also would love to hear your takes on 12th house stelliums if you ever have the chance!! 🖤

Hi, I hope this resonates!

Sun in the 12th House🌞

DISCLAIMER: These are all based off of my experiences with those who have this placement.

🌊 Artistic individuals. They are drawn to the arts in one way or another, be it acting/theatre, music, painting etc. They tend to use this as their outlet for expression.

🌊 Following from the point above they are more likely to have an eye for aesthetics

🌊Very Caring and in some cases might naturally gravitate towards the role of caretaker, whether that be in friendships or any other relationships in the native’s life.

🌊A bit more reserved and private when it comes to their personal lives. The type to sit back and observe more than talking and sharing details.

🌊 I also feel like they’re more likely to be the type of people to disappear, go off on their own for who knows how long and do their own thing and then randomly pop up again in their friends’ lives one day

🌊Empathetic. How open or easily they express this is dependent with the Sun sign itself

🌊I feel that they may really get in their own head at times

🌊 I wouldn’t say they’re all introverted but they are more secretive. You get to know them better day by day over time(if they let you) since they are not normally ones to put all their cards on the table right away.

🌊 Maybe it’s just the few I’ve met, but I think that for some, their sense of self can be quite impressionable??(let me try and explain). So I feel like people can project on them a lot. Project their idea of what they think the native is like and the native tends to not want to disappoint so they can at times act accordingly.

🌊 With any water placement, they can almost soak up others’ energy or are at least very sensitive to it.


Now on to…..

12th House Stellium 🏠

🌊With a 12th house stellium I really do believe there is a want or need for time alone. They already seem to be off in their own little world most times anyway.

🌊 Again, I’m mentioning a tie to the arts and creativity as anything in relation to the sign Pisces and the 12th House usually includes this, especially if there is a stellium.

🌊 I’ve seen that 12th House placements can at times be more open minded, especially towards foreign things/ people/ cultures etc. Not always, but I feel they’re more likely to accept and embrace it.

🌊 I’d say they’re pretty stubborn or at least persistent people (especially when paired with earth placements)

🌊 They’ve definitely got their own individual sense of style. Again this can definitely differ from person to person, however, on a number of occasions I’ve seen this lean more towards an artsy look or slightly hippie/boho type pattern or clothing

🌊 In most cases I’ve seen those with 12th House/Pisces placements attract as well as are drawn towards those with 8th House/Scorpio placements

🌊Themes of spirituality are either very significant in their lives or just isn’t regarded at all. This is something I feel happens with any stellium, you either heavily resonate with the theme tied to it or you go the complete opposite direction

makingspiritualityreal:

The Key to 12th House Happiness - You already have everything you Need

People with Natal 12th house planets are often so bogged down by having to live a physical life, that they forget how evolved their souls actually are. That level of evolution is necessary, in order for a soul to have chosen to incarnate with such a chart, which was ultimately necessary for one to be able to channel such a high level of energy. If you are a 12th houser, you have an element of mastery in your soul, that contains all the previous 11 houses already! Which means, that even if you’re physically struggling, you vibrationally have the capacity to have everything you could possibly want and need in life.

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The paradox with the 12th house is that it leads to certain elitism and pickiness, making it materially difficult to satisfy. That is because of its natural tendency to be turned towards the highest, most refined expression of whatever you can obtain in this Universe, because subconsciously you don’t feel the lack of anything enough to compromise. After all, the 12th house is associated with the largest level of energetic expenses in the entre zodiac wheel. We invest in things of the highest calibre only after we feel, like we’ve got everything else covered.

This internal high standard is how you practically manifest abundance into your life with the 12th house. Through understanding, that investing or spending a lot of energy on something is not about loss, but about consciously giving up mediocrity to achieve ultimate refinement. For example, you may spend more money on more quality food, which is going to be more of a financial “loss”, but really it is about not allowing anything of low quality, potentially harmful nature into your life, even if it would technically “cost you” less. That is because the 12th house believes, that the only “loss” is compromising your idea of infinite abundance, thinking that you’ve had enough just by getting the bare minimum. This is also why the 12th house is so energetically sensitive. In order to obtain the best, it had to fine tune all its senses towards discernment in experiencing the ultimate level of appreciation of depth.

That makes even more sense, if you look at the fact that the 12th house supports the 1st house and thus the energetic makeup of the entire chart. It’s the stepping stone to living in your Ascendant. This area of your life should not be approached with lack mentality, because if the foundation for your whole life has a low quality ring to it, the mediocrity is going to reflect in your entre existence. As a result, you can hyperfocus on unimportant details and get stuck in the lower ego expression, chasing things and feeling like it’s never enough, where you simply had a weak spiritual foundation in the 12th house all along. But if you put value on the ultimate refinement of energies supporting your life and don’t rush throwing yourself at the first thing available, you feel like you already have everything you need for yourself…so you’re just being choosy to ensure true happiness for yourself. That is also why the 12th house rules subconscious manifestation. By embracing this attitude, you automatically manifest high refinement into your life.

This is where the suffering of so many 12th house people begins. They get bogged down by the superficial, minute details in front of them and they forget about their vision, which leads to them actually manifesting difficult physical circumstances.

A good idea to work out your 12th house planets is to try to support your 11th house energies in chart, which can be especially powerful if you have natal planets there. Inside your head, act like you’re rich, accomplished, famous, recognised and surrounded by fulfilment of all your earthly desires. It doesn’t matter how far away that is from the physical reality you’ve had so far. Try it as a fun exercise.

The 11th house rules public recognition, ultimate wish fulfilment and realisation of aspirations. The moment you put yourself in the mindset of already having it all, the pressure instantly dissipates, and that allows you to work out your 12th house energy more efficiently.

So imagine every day, that you already have a throng of people loving you and supporting everything you do, and act like it’s real. It’s liberating, and makes you free spirited in your self expression of 12th house energies.

The 12th house teaches us, that what matters is not that we’ve got it all, but that we feel like we’ve got it all. You can have everything and be dissatisfied, and you can feel supreme bliss from fine tuning and appreciating every single little thing in your life. What ultimately makes a difference in life between reality and fantasy is our perception of what is possible. If you envision your deepest desires as a realistic possibility, they will become real in front of your eyes. If you keep yourself caged, thinking you can only go so far, you will only go as far as you allow yourself to believe. Make your reality not what you think it can or should be, but a place you would want to actually be in.

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m-ountainhermit:

the stelliums based on my experiences w them 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

2nd house stellium

feeling like they need financial security so badly they might die if they dont have it, but then the next moment think to themselves that “being a hobo isn’t that bad” before thinking about how tf theyre supposed to ration their money if they have like 5 pence per week.

being inflexible as hell when someone tells them to do shit but being surprisingly open-minded about everything else.

being sure of who they are deep down at their core but having so much difficulty expressing it. struggled so deeply with their identity when they were younger. feeling a lot of guilt because they internalise a lot of the mistakes theyve made. secretly thinks they’re a bad person deep down. they need to forgive themselves more.

constantly thinking of crisis scenarios like being trapped in an earthquake or a jungle or someone attacking them and how they would respond.

the possessive stereotype is so so true like if these mfers see their partner speaking with another person of the gender they’re attracted to they’ll literally feel a wave of irritation BUTTTT what usually isn’t written is that these people are actually so rational about it. like they know what they feel is irrational and they actually do trust their partner so they squash that feeling deep down. this will be a constant struggle for them throughout their lives but over time they do learn to manage it especially through healthy communication <3

getting dirt on everyone in their school just in case people bully them so they can blackmail them back (jk!!! unless……..). but fr knowing all the gossip in school but being sooo lowkey about it.

actually so loyal if they decide to trust you….. but dont break their hearts by leaving them because these people will still push you out of the way from an oncoming car even if you’ve had serious beef with them. they’ll never look at u the same way tho, if you betray their trust.

hating when people touch their stuff without their permission, have VERY specific brands for certain items that they need to use or they’ll feel physically incomplete (e.g. a pen or shoes).

they hate it even more when people touch their money and are extremely anal about people who borrow money from them. will chase their friends literally every minute for their money back until they actually get it back. the type to count their savings every week so they can make sure no money has been stolen LOL.

yearning for a stable relationship but also being so touch-starved/ horny that they constantly debate between going on tinder to find someone to f*ck or to wait 2000 years for someone who has the patience to peel back all their layers.

oh and power bottoms

6th house stellium

“i took pictures on PhotoBooth over the past year and i noticed whenever i stress eat my face gets noticeably fatter.” —> my 6th house stellium friend said that to me PLS

they aren’t obsessed with staying healthy like stereotypes say but rather being healthy/ exercising is second nature to them. it’s as natural as breathing air. possibly have been involved in multiple sports and excelled at all of them. have noticed they tend to suffer from sinus issues quite a bit/ particularly sensitive to colds or flus.

nervous energy is noticeable but ive noticed they usually calm down a lot when working on something that requires a lot of meticulousness. i think the routine/ repetition + focus helps a lot.

either icy cold or cries every 2 seconds. there’s no in between really.

theyre so observant though, they notice a lot of things most people won’t notice, like minute body reactions or tone inflections in a conversation. for this reason they are usually in tune with what the other person is truly thinking.

soo mature and kind. empathetic to a fault. literally their bestfriend could date their crush and they would understand their perspective (they might not forgive them tho). ive noticed they like talking through their feelings (makes sense tbh, virgo 6h - mercury - communication) even tho they’re bad at articulating them.

these people tend to fall for those who seem more free-spirited than them - those who aren’t afraid to say what they think and express themselves honestly. but ive noticed that because of their soft-spoken nature they tend to be overlooked when crushing on someone.

works at a rather slow but detailed pace. hates it so much when people rush them, its one of their pet peeves. oscillates between burning out super quickly and being able to work relentless for months on end.

sides with the underdog. hard for them to get along with people who are unempathetic/ has rigid opinions.

reserved. soft-spoken but actually so opinionated. such skilled liars though, they can lie to your face without blinking an eye but most would prefer not to. they tend to speak in half-truths if they dont trust you. if they trust you, you’ll notice a change in their body demeanour - the tension literally goes out of their shoulders.

usually so cautious but will not hesitate to take risks in projects they are incredibly passionate in. there’s a fire that burns bright within them that they very selectively let out only when its something very important to them.

9th house stellium

incredibly blessed with the ability to articulate their thought process. generally all-rounders in school but will have a huge preference for either STEM or the humanities. genuinely curious with learning new things and as a result sometimes has really niche hobbies (e.g. writing film reviews or something LOL).

im sorry this is such a stereotype but actually so freaking smart and they know it. they might not know how to harness it properly though unless they have more grounded placements but they have the ability to look at something once and break it down. on that note, vv analytical people but they hide it so well.

exudes good vibes and people find it exceptional difficult to stay mad at them. they could literally straight up slap someone and other people would still find excuses to justify their behavior lmaoo.

values honesty and integrity a lot. prefers speakers that speak bluntly and directly. people who speak in subtext a lot reallllyyyy stress them out because theyre not sure if theyve offended them or theyve misinterpretated what the other person was trying to say. which then leads them to overthink a lot. if theyve managed to come to the conclusion that u dont like them theyll be so stiff towards you.

their minds are straight up filthy. if ure their close friend youll wake up at 3am with like 50 texts describing how they were cooking with chilli and touched their d*** after and now when they piss their thing burns LMAOOOO.

therell always be one aspect of them that goes against the majority (e.g. being part of the LGBT community, being a minority race in a country). v big and proud of this identity and they tend to embody it wherever they go.

their bodies are naturally lean/ skinny without exercising

actually okay with being given orders/ controlled but only on their own terms. values their independence highly and is not afraid to go against the beat of the drum. they are extremely open when it comes to receiving ideas and opinions which is why when theyve arrived at a decision they don’t easily change their minds because theyve already thought through most of them.

possess an incredibly ability for self-reflection. first and foremost these people pride themselves on their ability to just…. think. when they feel disappointment from anyone these people really internalise it simply to think through their actions and improve from them.

fiery fiery people - when they decide on a goal they throw themselves into it and no matter how many obstacles they face these people will still obstinately plow through it. their resilience is no joke.

10th house stellium

most would have had an idea about what they want their future careers to be from a really early age.

uh contrary to popular belief this placement doesnt indicate natural workaholics??? it’s more so that from the people ive interacted with that have a 10th house stellium, they are just incredibly consistent when it comes to working towards their career (like doing extracurriculars/ internships to get experience) and they pride themselves on that.

epitome of no pain no gain??? like most people with 10h stelliums are masochists ngl. would insist on doing something their way even if its more difficult/ less efficient just to go through the lessons that those hardships would bring. they like the experience, it gives them some semblance of control. on that note, this trait of theirs also gives them an insane amount of inner strength.

this is a given but these people are vv ambitious although not as cutthroat as many would expect. the stellium gives this placement a more grounded energy and in a way imbues them with more conscience??? LOL

can come across looking very intimidating, radiating BDE HAHAHAHA. these people can make strangers think they hate them even though theyve done nothing. but fr 10h stelliums are SO FRIENDLY!!! and surprisingly spontaneous at times

touching on their softer side, these people are actually so self-sacrificing and giving to the people they love. will buy their bestfriend a whole ass car for their birthday and then blink when the other person gapes at them and TAKE IT AS IF ITS SOMETHING NATURAL TO DO????? really, they will put their own needs aside just to accommodate to you if u mean a lot to them. highkey spoils their loved ones w food and gifts.

when they’re in one of their moods they tend to clam up and isolate themselves. they dont like confiding in people immediately if it’s something really serious and instead prefer to resolve it by themselves but if its something that just annoys them they rant in such a hilarious manner.

find themselves pushed into positions of authority even if they dont particularly feel an inclination to lead. its as if the opportunity of leadership is always gifted to them. the image they present to public will always be perceived as responsible even if theyre an alcoholic or a druggie or sumn.

caring a lot about what people think of them to almost an unhealthy degree and letting other people’s perceived judgements affect their behavior and actions in real life. overthinking like shit when they think a person of authority dislikes them and sucking up to said person so that theyll give them more attention.

11th house stellium

usually placed in a disadvantageous position in their childhood, which is why theyre so passionate about certain causes when they grow up. they dont want to let other children experience the same trauma as they did.

very very charming people but not in a typical libra way. instead, their charming is more endearing. something about them gets people to see their appeal quickly. they might not be immensely popular but they are definitely well-known in the community.

im sorry but ive noticed this trend among 11th house stelliums - although they really care about large-scale, macro world issues, when it comes to acts of everyday kindness or suffering these folks aren’t the most empathetic? in real life, they process everything (including their emotions) through their own experiences, meaning if they haven’t gone through them, it can be difficult for them to relate to the person crying in front of them and offer any sort of constructive comfort.

prefers to talk about their friends’ lives in conversation, dont usually steer the conversation towards themselves unless asked. they also tend to hold their friends at arms length, despite having quite a number of them. its not a personal thing and their friends probably dont take offence, but 11h stelliums just highly value their own independence and privacy. in a paradoxical way, these people only feel like they are truly themselves when they are completely alone.

which brings me to the next point, their wariness of intimacy and the fear of letting people see their “true” selves? these people know in their hearts they are kinda different from the rest of the population, but they also deeply want to belong, so theyve kinda adapted their personality to be more palatable. and it works, these people are v personable as u know. so when somebody starts spending a lot of time with them these people get scared and they start closing themselves off or ghosting or in the worst case, bolting. theyre terrified that once people see their authentic selves those people will leave and then they’ll be stuck knowing that they were right about being a misfit and having to deal with rejection and alienation again.

these people might struggle with elevated anxiety or even have problems with low moods for a persistent period of time. i think their sense of rationality is so strong that they tend to think they theyve processed their emotions when they actually haven’t, which is why it builds up and causes such tumultuous feelings. it’s a constant head vs heart battle for them and it leaves them so mentally drained sometimes.

also vv sharp instincts. they can smell blood fr and are extremely good lie detectors. they can usually predict the outcome of something and tell if a person is of good character or not by simply looking at them. this provides them the gift of foresight which honestly is also why they can be very good entrepreneurs.

12th house stellium

no but these people are actually so private. they have practically no social media presence (think jaehyun of nct LOL). they like the idea of staying mysterious but at the same time desire so deeply for soul-to-soul connection and for people to see their true selves. attracted to people who know where they want their lives to go and tend to ground themselves by interacting w them. also the type to have secret hobbies that theyre proficient at and one day they might be like “oh actually i know how to speak 10 languages oops sorry for not telling u hahah my bad!!”

they have such a light-hearted side to them tho and they love to tease. they won’t do it outright but rather in a subtle manner. Their sense of humor is suggestive and wry which to me adds on to their charisma.

the type that needs to be alone to process their emotions. their feelings are intense and they are so hard on themselves. may react impulsively if said feeling is too overwhelming.

stubborn stubborn people. can be surprisingly set about their opinions and they hate being in uncertain situations/ indecisive environments it literally makes their anxiety 📈📈📈.

on that note, they can be such closeted control freaks. they hate this part of themselves and it feels so irritating because oftentimes theyre not sure what is causing the reaction? if something feels off they will be physically uncomfortable.

such good fashion sense!! the type of people who can pick out a snazzy outfit with their eyes closed. theyre so lowkey about this but compliment them about their taste in clothing and they’ll be so happy.

extremely empathetic people but bad at expressing it outright. they’ll give it like an hour before expressing their concern for you and making sure youre okay. very intuitive too, if youre distressed all they want to do is soothe.

their personality during childhood might have been completely different than their current one? tend to grow into their “true” personalities and tend to project what they think is their picture of themselves into the external world. although, the side of them from their childhood is still in there deep down, its reserved only for their closest relationships tho.

despite feeling uncertain about their self-image, in the eyes of the public they maintain a remarkably consistent energy and personality. might have a distinct stereotype attached to them in school settings (e.g. smart one, quiet one).

they possess incredible creative energy but might have subconsciously rejected it for more practical hobbies or careers. ive often noticed that 12th house stelliums are influenced by their sun sign more than most people - such that they embody the qualities of their sun sign in a more tangible manner.

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19-bellwether:

Every time I read fandom posts about fictional characters ‘deserving’ things I’m struck by how culturally Christian ya’ll are without realizing it

Your critical analysis skills won’t improve until you understand that characters are tools in a story and applying real life morality to them does not lead to good writing. Does a villain 'deserve’ redemption? Who cares? I want to know if it would support the story’s message. Does a tragic character 'deserve’ better? That doesn’t matter. Did their death serve as a satisfying end to their arc? Did it impact the greater narrative in a positive way?